Servers Merge x10 with x20
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Taking NPC buffer will not change much on this server trust me... anyone can box a high lvl WC or whatever buffer he/she needs. The buffer might change the game a bit (not only 1 hr buffs... also think of the CP/MP recharge), but it is quite convenient. If need be... take it out for the happiness of the people 
@perfect what do you mean to take out elemental stones drop at event? Do you mean the stones in the cruma event or the elemental crystals at the caravan event?
The stones are easily farmable in many places, but they do not impact the game that much. Take them out if you want but it matters less.
The CRYSTALS on the other hand have a HUGE impact on the game and I still think the drop rate should be increased and the 'random' factor should be lowered. Modify the caravan event as follows: for each town get an (1/one) elemental crystal OF YOUR CHOICE at a certain rate (say 60%). That would make the event much better.
@perfect what do you mean to take out elemental stones drop at event? Do you mean the stones in the cruma event or the elemental crystals at the caravan event?
The stones are easily farmable in many places, but they do not impact the game that much. Take them out if you want but it matters less.
The CRYSTALS on the other hand have a HUGE impact on the game and I still think the drop rate should be increased and the 'random' factor should be lowered. Modify the caravan event as follows: for each town get an (1/one) elemental crystal OF YOUR CHOICE at a certain rate (say 60%). That would make the event much better.
Taking NPC buffer will not change much on this server trust me... anyone can box a high lvl WC or whatever buffer he/she needs. The buffer might change the game a bit (not only 1 hr buffs... also think of the CP/MP recharge), but it is quite convenient. If need be... take it out for the happiness of the people
@perfect what do you mean to take out elemental stones drop at event? Do you mean the stones in the cruma event or the elemental crystals at the caravan event?
The stones are easily farmable in many places, but they do not impact the game that much. Take them out if you want but it matters less.
The CRYSTALS on the other hand have a HUGE impact on the game and I still think the drop rate should be increased and the 'random' factor should be lowered. Modify the caravan event as follows: for each town get an (1/one) elemental crystal OF YOUR CHOICE at a certain rate (say 60%). That would make the event much better.
Stop being a lazy ass, any1 can farm crys to make a weapon 300 in a week probably less caravan is way too easy as it is and from what i've seen u been farming in gracia except u are clueless about it (Lol) doesn't surprise me like really are you ppl first timers or something? but anyway with the amount of ppl ur clan holds should be pretty easy for u to farm A N Y T H I N G and crystals should be ur last concern, and if we are talking about ppl that don't have a huge clan like urs caravan is still a really easy way to do it dont forget Caravan boxes Give crystals too, i never see u doing them, u are just being lazy
Man stop scolding me for being lazy. I was just giving some suggestions that would give (more or less) the same return when it comes the overall quantity of the crystals, only it would make it more reliable.
As far as the instance is concerned I guess it was our fault, but as I said we had done it many times before without this happening. We all live and learn... it's not like anyone was born knowing everything (maybe you still remember the old days no?)
I was just giving some suggestions that would give (more or less) the same return when it comes the overall quantity of the crystals, only it would make it more reliable.As far as the instance is concerned I guess it was our fault, but as I said we had done it many times before without this happening. We all live and learn... it's not like anyone was born knowing everything (maybe you still remember the old days no?)
Retail-like experience, but there is a twist!
Hello all,
Here's my Pro + Contra for the x10 server:
Pro :
-Starting on this server is hard but soooo retail like! I died twice to a Ruin Spatoi! (love it, reminds me of old days
- all herbs working on the field
- NPC buffer has all nessecary buffs needed for a good start.
- The absence of MP pots made me do a EE dualbox wich i can use for heal and for recharge my spoiler.
- No need to do this ANNOYING, TIME AND NERF STEALING NC SOFT QUESTS!!! for 1st and 2nd job occupation.
- The server seems very stable, no lags or delys with 2 dualbox behind
- No books needed to learn skills so far!
Contra :
- Adena drop could be like x15 or x20 ( spoil and drop from Treasure chest are nice)
- Donations cost expensive OK, but on this server, ther should be NO DONATION AT ALL!! Why? well for example: On Teon, the bots destroyed the economy with massive mats/drop stocks, and with this, they destoyed real players work on spoiling/crafting
- For Caravan/Cruma Events i dont know the rewards... I simplay ask: WHo cares on crafting an Avadon Set?
ME!
But why should i, if i can deliver 1 Caravan and get 70 KK Adena for 1 Element Cry from a player? Why should i spoil 1 hour the same mobs if donations and event unbalance the whole gameplay?
To craft a B grade SET is a though work. It takes hours to spoil parts in a dungeon like Giants CAve for example. Not to mention the time invested for lvl up the dwarfs!
6 years have past since i created my first char.
on L2toxic x50 i have several 85+ chars with +120 SET/ +10/ +16 items etc
on x10 i have 3 lvl 40 chars + 2 lvl 35 + chars and 7kk adena
So asked myself : What makes me stay on x10?
- A friendly Kamael Hero from Illuminati Clan helped me out with 7 KK adena,
so i could eqip my chars with COmmon Top D grade and keep some money for SS and pots, Special thx to that guy
- The class occupation NPC
- The retail like feeling i had during gameplay
Hello all,
Here's my Pro + Contra for the x10 server:
Pro :
-Starting on this server is hard but soooo retail like! I died twice to a Ruin Spatoi! (love it, reminds me of old days
- all herbs working on the field
- NPC buffer has all nessecary buffs needed for a good start.
- The absence of MP pots made me do a EE dualbox wich i can use for heal and for recharge my spoiler.
- No need to do this ANNOYING, TIME AND NERF STEALING NC SOFT QUESTS!!! for 1st and 2nd job occupation.
- The server seems very stable, no lags or delys with 2 dualbox behind
- No books needed to learn skills so far!
Contra :
- Adena drop could be like x15 or x20 ( spoil and drop from Treasure chest are nice)
- Donations cost expensive OK, but on this server, ther should be NO DONATION AT ALL!! Why? well for example: On Teon, the bots destroyed the economy with massive mats/drop stocks, and with this, they destoyed real players work on spoiling/crafting
- For Caravan/Cruma Events i dont know the rewards... I simplay ask: WHo cares on crafting an Avadon Set?
ME!
But why should i, if i can deliver 1 Caravan and get 70 KK Adena for 1 Element Cry from a player? Why should i spoil 1 hour the same mobs if donations and event unbalance the whole gameplay?
To craft a B grade SET is a though work. It takes hours to spoil parts in a dungeon like Giants CAve for example. Not to mention the time invested for lvl up the dwarfs!
6 years have past since i created my first char.
on L2toxic x50 i have several 85+ chars with +120 SET/ +10/ +16 items etc
on x10 i have 3 lvl 40 chars + 2 lvl 35 + chars and 7kk adena
So asked myself : What makes me stay on x10?
- A friendly Kamael Hero from Illuminati Clan helped me out with 7 KK adena,
so i could eqip my chars with COmmon Top D grade and keep some money for SS and pots, Special thx to that guy
- The class occupation NPC
- The retail like feeling i had during gameplay
Hello all,
Here's my Pro + Contra for the x10 server:
Pro :
-Starting on this server is hard but soooo retail like! I died twice to a Ruin Spatoi! (love it, reminds me of old days
- all herbs working on the field
- NPC buffer has all nessecary buffs needed for a good start.
- The absence of MP pots made me do a EE dualbox wich i can use for heal and for recharge my spoiler.
- No need to do this ANNOYING, TIME AND NERF STEALING NC SOFT QUESTS!!! for 1st and 2nd job occupation.
- The server seems very stable, no lags or delys with 2 dualbox behind
- No books needed to learn skills so far!
Contra :
- Adena drop could be like x15 or x20 ( spoil and drop from Treasure chest are nice)
- Donations cost expensive OK, but on this server, ther should be NO DONATION AT ALL!! Why? well for example: On Teon, the bots destroyed the economy with massive mats/drop stocks, and with this, they destoyed real players work on spoiling/crafting
- For Caravan/Cruma Events i dont know the rewards... I simplay ask: WHo cares on crafting an Avadon Set?
ME!
But why should i, if i can deliver 1 Caravan and get 70 KK Adena for 1 Element Cry from a player? Why should i spoil 1 hour the same mobs if donations and event unbalance the whole gameplay?
To craft a B grade SET is a though work. It takes hours to spoil parts in a dungeon like Giants CAve for example. Not to mention the time invested for lvl up the dwarfs!
6 years have past since i created my first char.
on L2toxic x50 i have several 85+ chars with +120 SET/ +10/ +16 items etc
on x10 i have 3 lvl 40 chars + 2 lvl 35 + chars and 7kk adena
So asked myself : What makes me stay on x10?
- A friendly Kamael Hero from Illuminati Clan helped me out with 7 KK adena,
so i could eqip my chars with COmmon Top D grade and keep some money for SS and pots, Special thx to that guy
- The class occupation NPC
- The retail like feeling i had during gameplay
1. donations can't be taken away if we wanna have this "Top premium connection" blaze needs to get enough money for the monthly fees
2. Dude if u wanna play retail-ish just go play official, and nope im not hating or flaming and as far as the event goes, u are basicly saying that an event is unbalancing the server?, if this server is laacking so much ppl it's cuz of the lack of events, should i remind every1 when we didn't even have rabbit event? there would be NOBODY online. And again im not hating or flaming ur post but really if you wanna play with no events and working 12312312 hours spoiling a B grade set official is free for a reason now
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and as a remark, for those of you who still have a doubt about why x10's population greatly decreased, reason is quite simple:
Making the 3rd server was basicly what killed us pretty much Blaze made a 3rd server in spite of the fact that nobody on x10 agreed with this move, and yea Nobody did you can all find the thread on the suggestion section in x10 we all told him that what he needed to do was just focus on x10 and that's it and again NOBODY agreed on the 3rd server, and since some might try to get smart on me, the only ppl thing ppl suggested on that thread was having an UPDATE instead of making a 3rd server
¿why did ppl leave? many ppl's thoughts were something like this, and yes this actually comes from ppl who left the server and i've come across them to ask them what was the reason and they said: Why play on a server where blaze doesn't care about what we want even when he posts on forum about the new server and nobody agrees, and NOT ONLY THAT, he also made x10 have THE WORST CONNECTION among all the 3 servers this, Believe it or not was an insult to MANY players why? because basicly he's pissing away all the hard work any long timer in x10 did and even new players who started to play, and now the server is not attractive for any1 old players or new ones, Even old players are just logging to drop their sets away in a town and give their Account away as well and now we are basicly forced to ask for this merge because it's the only way for ppl in x10 now to meet new ppl and actually improve their gaming cuz yea if we would've kept only 1 server and blaze would've done some changes im sure things would be a lot different, anyway there u have it
Hello all,
No problem, snekoner, i always accept critic for there is always some truth behind it!
To clarify this, i'm not saying the Event as such is unbalancing, but the reward does it. I just ask myself what i was expecting... Well, may be i just was looking for the good old lineage experience, the times from Seyons of Destiny, C4, the magic epoque when i started to play Lineage2. The time when i was sitting in Dion , listening the music and try to sell SSD or basic mats recipes... I'm getting nostalgic.... :victory:
Well. I found it for a short time, and i feel satisfied on one hand, on the other i felt like sharing my experience with my post.
Fact is, the players are missing.. As you say! And this is vital for this game.
I was on retail and i won't go back playing there for one simple reason. This is not L2 anymore! When you go on youtube and watch the game updates since Freya, you'll know what i mean.
Basicly, i think we ask the same questions.
What was Blaze purpose with the x10 server? Why did he put it up even when nobody agreed on it? What was the point to a x10 server when we have a x20 PRO and a x50 PVP server?
No problem, snekoner, i always accept critic for there is always some truth behind it!
To clarify this, i'm not saying the Event as such is unbalancing, but the reward does it. I just ask myself what i was expecting... Well, may be i just was looking for the good old lineage experience, the times from Seyons of Destiny, C4, the magic epoque when i started to play Lineage2. The time when i was sitting in Dion , listening the music and try to sell SSD or basic mats recipes... I'm getting nostalgic.... :victory:
Well. I found it for a short time, and i feel satisfied on one hand, on the other i felt like sharing my experience with my post.
Fact is, the players are missing.. As you say! And this is vital for this game.
I was on retail and i won't go back playing there for one simple reason. This is not L2 anymore! When you go on youtube and watch the game updates since Freya, you'll know what i mean.
Basicly, i think we ask the same questions.
What was Blaze purpose with the x10 server? Why did he put it up even when nobody agreed on it? What was the point to a x10 server when we have a x20 PRO and a x50 PVP server?
about the rewards we need those rewards anyways, with crappy rewards there would be no point at all @ doing it, and as for blaze's purpose that question still remains in everybody's mind all i know is that at the end of that thread where everybody disagreed he still said he was gonna make it but that he was gonna keep x10 for "respect" to old players. And that's no respect at all imo, and again i'm not hating, it's as clear as water every1 knew that by making a new server was already gonna make things unbalance for us and if that wasn't enough he gave them better connection than our server, that's like basicly saying that our money/time investment on x10 wasn't worth a pickle, and these aren't my words btw this comes from the community
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and i've been thinking about making a poll with votations to do it the other way around, x20 merging with x10 and just giving us 2 servers again like it was b4, personally i think it's the best simply cuz i still don't know and many would say the same about why we have 3 servers if blaze never even had time for 2, and also i came up with this suggestion because the population in x20 is a lot worse than x10 if u think about it the only thing we'll be getting is better Ping and that's about it, yes there is that rumor about that ppl will start playing when the merge happens but that still remains to be seen not to mention that it would be easier for blaze to merge x20 with us since they have less ppl compared to x10 that's an older server, this way blaze can do things quicker and we all get what we want but we won't grow if x10 ping remains as 1 of the highest among the servers when u are on the choosing server window so we should make a poll with a votation about that
---------- Post added at 10:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 PM ----------
and i've been thinking about making a poll with votations to do it the other way around, x20 merging with x10 and just giving us 2 servers again like it was b4, personally i think it's the best simply cuz i still don't know and many would say the same about why we have 3 servers if blaze never even had time for 2, and also i came up with this suggestion because the population in x20 is a lot worse than x10 if u think about it the only thing we'll be getting is better Ping and that's about it, yes there is that rumor about that ppl will start playing when the merge happens but that still remains to be seen not to mention that it would be easier for blaze to merge x20 with us since they have less ppl compared to x10 that's an older server, this way blaze can do things quicker and we all get what we want but we won't grow if x10 ping remains as 1 of the highest among the servers when u are on the choosing server window so we should make a poll with a votation about that
.... well, if there where more ppl, I think blaze will be happy to invest money/time in it.
I think official changed it all.
official didn't change it, u have no idea the amount of ppl who wants to play here if blaze is willing to cooperate and not only on x10, on x50 as well we are talking about hundreads of ppl and im not kidding and many ppl still prefer private servers over official, believe me
In order to attract new people the server needs to offer new challenges. The merge might do just that ( maybe new castle status and even balance in oly), although I am a little skeptical seeing how little people actually play on x20. So I would say we should not rely ONLY on that. Somehow the server needs to become more appealing for newcomers. If we could make just some minor tweaks I am sure it will be much better to start from 0 on toxic x10 (or x20 for that matter).
What I suggest:
#1. More revita pops from events.
#2. More reliable elemental crystal drop from event.
#3. Increased drop rate of quest items in HB/IoP/Gracia. I think x2 would suffice (because right now the rates are x1).
Again I might need to mention that these are only suggestions. But I think these changes will help new people level up, gear up and put attributes on their gear faster, which will give them the incentive to start something here. This way they will get involved in the high level game faster and we might even see mass daily pvp again.
And any comments anyone might have on me being lazy, idle, slothful, lethargic, listless, sluggish... keep it for yourselves. Obviously everyone would benefit from these changes, but if everything stays the same there is no way the population will increase.
On what Dez said:
. Clearly the merged server should have the better ping out of the two (no matter what the rates will be or who will go where), although I personally do not have any connection problems at the moment.
On what Myz3 said:
. If you are interested in crafting low grade stuff then Illuminati might be the place for you. I still think you will not craft an avadon set (since you can buy one from the luxury shop ), but there are quite a few rare B and A items that can be useful. Obviously you will not be alone in this. If interested look for our people or just randomly try to pm Tartiflette or Vigoss. If not... I wish you to hf wherever you go
What I suggest:
#1. More revita pops from events.
#2. More reliable elemental crystal drop from event.
#3. Increased drop rate of quest items in HB/IoP/Gracia. I think x2 would suffice (because right now the rates are x1).
Again I might need to mention that these are only suggestions. But I think these changes will help new people level up, gear up and put attributes on their gear faster, which will give them the incentive to start something here. This way they will get involved in the high level game faster and we might even see mass daily pvp again.
And any comments anyone might have on me being lazy, idle, slothful, lethargic, listless, sluggish... keep it for yourselves. Obviously everyone would benefit from these changes, but if everything stays the same there is no way the population will increase.
On what Dez said:
. Clearly the merged server should have the better ping out of the two (no matter what the rates will be or who will go where), although I personally do not have any connection problems at the moment.
On what Myz3 said:
. If you are interested in crafting low grade stuff then Illuminati might be the place for you.
I still think you will not craft an avadon set (since you can buy one from the luxury shop ), but there are quite a few rare B and A items that can be useful. Obviously you will not be alone in this. If interested look for our people or just randomly try to pm Tartiflette or Vigoss. If not... I wish you to hf wherever you go - Status